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9 Downloads to Free Yourself from iTunes

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Nine free downloads promise to help you get the most out of your iPod -- without iTunes.

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{"commentId":4199477,"authorDomain":"torabu"}

Am I the only person on the planet that likes iTunes for both Windows and Mac? ):

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Reply#1 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:11 PM EST
{"commentId":4200605,"authorDomain":"jaybutler"}

I like it. I don't live in iTunes on my Mac or PC and really use it as a library to house my music collection and setup playlists for my iPods.

I do occasionally purchase music and apps within iTunes, but I also purchase music from Amazon and Deutsche Gramophone then put it in iTunes. I download podcasts all the time. But, I rarley if ever actually play my music in iTunes (except to check on things or while building playlists).

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#1.1 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:27 PM EST
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{"commentId":4199769,"authorDomain":"jaybutler"}

Each of these pieces of software has some omission that makes it less than an ideal replacement. While iTunes may have some shortcomings, each of these pieces of software is missing something significant.

Songbird - missing "CD ripping, video support, and support for iPhones and the iPod Touch"

WinAmp - "not currently compatible with the iPod Touch and iPhone"

Media Monkey - better, but "free version's MP3 and M4A encoders are limited to 30 days"

Anapod Explorer - "doesn't support the iPod Touch or the iPhone"

Xplay 3 - "not compatible with the iPod Touch or the iPhone"

Foobar 2000 - "can't sync your Foobar2000 library back to your iPod"

Floola - "Playback features are limited"

YamiPod - "doesn't list genres either"

Sharepod - "does not offer playback support"

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Reply#2 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:32 PM EST
{"commentId":4200246,"authorDomain":"torabu"}

And then I have to ask the question: what is so undesirable about iTunes, anyway?

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#2.1 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:04 PM EST
{"commentId":4200249,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

Also, they mention that Media Monkey is better, and that it has more features, but the only thing it lists that isn't *also* available in iTunes is plugins. 

I dunno. I'm pretty happy with iTunes. It's worth noting that this list came from PCWorld initially and is now on MSN.

They're not going to give iTunes a fair shake.

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#2.2 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:04 PM EST
{"commentId":4200311,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

And then I have to ask the question: what is so undesirable about iTunes, anyway?

Oh, there are legitimate gripes with iTunes. None of them are deal breakers for *me* but I can understand why some people might not like it.

With that said, as an ecosystem between iPod and JukeBox?

I'm not sure there's anything that works better, or more seamlessly.

PCWorld also wrote a "10 things we hate most about iTunes" article, and much of *that* list was crap. One of the items blames Apple for continued DRM, and points to other services which offer DRM free music from labels whose music is encumbered by DRM on iTunes, stating outright that this is proof that Apple isn't interested in getting rid of DRM.

That's idiotic. Whoever wrote that either 1) is ignorant or 2) is trolling for page views because it's no secret that several of the labels are *purposefully* refusing to let Apple sell DRM free music while letting others sell the same music without DRM because they are trying to wrest control back from Apple.

If it annoys you that iTunes still sells some music with DRM: Blame the labels. 

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#2.3 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:09 PM EST
{"commentId":4214159,"authorDomain":"tyler"}

I don't like iTunes very much, but I don't own an iPod. If I did I'd feel I had to use it.

As players go, Zune and Foobar ether it. Songbird might be better than both when it's out of beta. But still, until someone moves in on the iPod market, the iTunes stranglehold isn't loosening at all.

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#2.4 - Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:20 PM EST
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{"commentId":4200830,"authorDomain":"blueherring2006"}

I use itunes all the time.  The only problem I have had is finding a song I want.  I will just go to another site and download it.

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Reply#3 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:43 PM EST
{"commentId":4203167,"authorDomain":"DrKnow"}

I have never had iTunes or an iPod. I have had a few mp3 players but they cannot survive my activities for the most part.

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Reply#4 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:48 PM EST
{"commentId":4203747,"authorDomain":"checkerbattery"}

iTunes as an app is fine, the problem comes from the fact that iTunes is the world's largest music retailer yet is tied to the iPod at the exclusion of other players.

That's why so many want iTunes to go away, not because of some perceived functionality based deficiency.  Now if you could use any of these apps to purchase music from iTunes just as you can from the Amazon store, then that would be newsworthy, although I bet it'll take nothing short of a lawsuit to get Apple to open iTunes to all players equally.

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Reply#5 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:47 PM EST
{"commentId":4203947,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

Now if you could use any of these apps to purchase music from iTunes just as you can from the Amazon store, then that would be newsworthy, although I bet it'll take nothing short of a lawsuit to get Apple to open iTunes to all players equally.

1) That'll never happen.

2) iTunes Plus files are AAC without DRM - a format that any player can support, and which *many, many* players *do* support, beyond the various iPods and the iPhone.

3) The fact that *all* iTunes store files aren't AAC without DRM is the fault of the record labels. Apple has offered to switch away from DRM, and has stated that they would *rather* switch, and *did* switch for every label that took them up on the offer. No lawsuits required.

4) "So many" is an interesting choice of words, given that -- as you've mentioned -- iTunes is the leader in retail music sales.

5) iPods (and iPhones) support MP3 files, which are easily available from multiple legit vendors, and which play just fine with iTunes. 

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#5.1 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:05 PM EST
{"commentId":4204533,"authorDomain":"jaybutler"}

which *many, many* players *do* support

Not the least of which is the Zune.

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#5.2 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:12 PM EST
{"commentId":4245176,"authorDomain":"waynester"}

Be sure to check out tune-bite a nifty little app (but not free) that converts itunes and other DRM media to a variety of formats. It gets around the fairplay/DRM protection by having itunes "play" the song at 2x (or higher) and records it in mp3 or whatever. Not strictly a dig copy so it theoretically suffers a tiny bit  in the conversion but most people wouldn't notice it.

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#5.3 - Mon Dec 1, 2008 10:01 AM EST
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