
One of the most vile acts of non-human behavior has happened in Detroit with two animals disguised as human parents. Animals may even be disgusted with me for saying that because they have more respect for life than these low lifes. It appears that there was constant abuse in the home, but from what's been reported at USA Today, the child was put in a barbecue grill after his death to, as these two future prison ragdolls put it, "to avoid funeral costs."
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*speechless :-O
Subhuman and so warped in the head twisted. How do people spiral downward I am truly mystified.
I feel like barfing.
Where's the actual article?
This is just some guy's blog folks... I'd like to see the Free-Press article on this one.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,516878,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510292,00.html
I found these, but I am not really fond of FOX normally. This couple is deplorable. I saw the years that they are getting, and I really don't think that they are enough. I hope that the child she still has (the one that was scalded) will never be placed back with her. If my son were to pass away, I don't think I could even contemplate just tossing him on my grill. There are too many ways to save on funeral costs if you just look around.
I seriously doubt he just "died". They probably abused him, he died, and they tried to cover it up. That's why the other baby has been burned, too, over 35% of his body . Sick.
I've signed paperwork so my body will go to science. That way no one will have to pay funeral expenses.
Well, the medical school that ended up with your body will cover funeral expenses, eventually.
no the med school passes the costs on to the students. My lab fees for anatomy was 1K
Lissa Rose, I appreciate your effort. I am trying to track this back to the AP story and I'm having a tough time. I found this story on a blog from last month (onepagenews) with attribution to AP but can't find the original AP story...
I found this month old article in the Freep but it refers back to the AP article.
You're welcome Spooky Boyfriend. This piece of inhumanity horrified me, and I wanted to know exactly the details before judging this for myself.
The article was pretty good about stating the injuries that had partially healed without using the words prior abuse. It hinted at it strongly.
Funerals are too expensive. I agree. in many other countries people do the same thing because they cannot afford a decent burial/cremation. In India they just chuck dead bodies in the river.
Looks like funerals will be another thing only the rich can afford soon.
Really? You're going to use this as some sort of pseudo-political thing? They're monsters- and you WILL not find parents chucking their passed children into a BBQ around the world. You're a jackass.
Look it up.
People have alternate burial methods all over the world. No need to get "nasty" with you bad self.
In historical times people routinely placedt he bodies of the dead in communal fires. Its a matter of economics.
I think their method is a bit harsh. But trust me in the woods of the Blue ridge mountains, many people are buried without the benefit of a mortician.
RTFA. - "A Detroit couple accused of trying to cremate their dead 2-year-old son on a barbecue grill, and then hiding the remains while collecting welfare benefits for the child, were both sentenced to prison today. There is evidence of foul play"
While I see your point Xipotec, there is a difference between putting your DEAD CHILD in a communial fire, or a pyre of some sorts, and cooking them on the grill. I think Dom is more offended by you insensitivty than anything else. For christ's sake, burying him in the back yard would have been more accecptable.
Besides about 99.999999% of counties in the US will provide direct burials/cremations if there is no next of kin or the parties involved can't afford to do so, simply for the reasons of disease. This was preformed by uneducated and uninformed idiots. There is speculation that the child was murdered/accidently killed, so in order to avoid criminal charges this is what they resorted to.
Seems like their plan didn't work out too well.
Read the article next time.
Uh yeah, I live in those mountains, and while it may be true that on occasion in the backwoods people are buried without a mortician, that is extremely different from throwing a dead body in a barbecue. And other cultures having alternative burial methods, such as ceremoniously burning their dead, is also completely different from putting a body in a barbecue grill.
These people did not do this because they have alternative beliefs about death, or even because they couldn't afford a real funeral. There was a history of abusing their child, it sounds like this contributed to its death, and they put it in the barbecue presumably to avoid being found out. They are sick, and your defense of them is inexcusable.
Please, never procreate.
You clearly are missing the entire point. If I didn't know better, I'd wager that you are defending these pieces of trash, but I guess it was just a matter of time until someone did, given the prevailing lack of personal responsiblity overruning this country.
Oh come on... this was a child!
Everybody knows children can be killed without question for the first part of their lives. Its legal and convenient, and millions are vocal about what a good thing it is to get rid of the disgusting little vermin
This story seems to be about somebody who may have gone a little past the normal time limit and when they did kill the child, they cremated it at home to save expenses
If anything, maybe they should be warned to kill any of their future children a little earlier because at some point, children begin to look too much like real humans
Sarcasm people.
get with it....
alanwillingham, please don't make this into another extremist political-religious, self-righteous grandstanding event. God Bless the poor little child that obviously suffered at the hands of heartless, cruel, self-absorbed bastards who clearly had no qualms about inflicting tortuous pain on an innocent living, breathing being. However, to equate child abuse with a woman's personal choice seems to indicate you have one-dimensional thinking: Your way or no way. Get real. You want to do something about 'saving' children? Contribute to the poor little souls who are here and suffering like this blessed child did. You're a typical 'pro-life' hypocrite.
tessann38 - to equate child abuse with a woman's personal choice seems to indicate you have one-dimensional thinking
Quite the contrary...
The story doesn't indicate how old the child was, but it is entirely possible the mother simply exercised her right to choose in a way that you don't approve
Why should a woman's right to choose be so restricted? It is often the case that events unfold that are entirely unpredictable soon after the child's birth that make it extremely difficult for her to live or manage her life as she expected
Quite possibly, some setback of this nature is occurred, and the woman simply made her choice accordingly
Since no one knows with certainty what may happen despite the best of intentions, a woman should be free to choose until the child is two or three years old, and not forced by the state to be an unwilling nanny
Since no one knows with certainty what may happen despite the best of intentions, a woman should be free to choose until the child is two or three years old, and not forced by the state to be an unwilling nanny
Hurf durf, what clever social commentary you have there. Man oh man, you just got in the face of our culture and said "hey society, here's a mirror!" Superb!
Alan Willingham~ I found the articles on the FOX news website. I posted the links above in post #3.2, and the child was about 2 years old.
According to our laws in the U.S. (this includes the people in Detroit), once the child is born, it is called murder. There are better ways to deal with an unwanted child after it is born. I do not know the specifics of the laws reguarding this in Detroit, but after so many hours, a baby could just be left at a hospital or some other emergency service area. That child is normally put up for adoption then. This is not really an issue of pro-life or pro-choice.
unbelievable, did they kill the child to begin with?
That is just so wrong on so many levels!
I'm going to be sick!! :(
Did they kill the child ? Where were the authorities during this? I didn't see an article so does anyone know how old the child was? I hope they don't try some sort of insanity plea but I got a feeling they will.They deserve prison time for this.
i mean, its disturbing....but much different than cremating?
keep in mind, if we keep enbalming bodies to keep them intact longer, we're totally setting ourselves up for a zombie attack! think about it, when the zombies finally pull a Dawn of the Dead on us, they'll be much more of them, and they'll be much more intact.
cremate them, bbq them, or stick them on top of a hill for the buzzards. they'll be much easier to be-head if they barely have a head anymore! :) :) :)
I'm quite excited about the idea of a zombie invasion, and quite prepard too! It will give me a chance to try out my chainsaw/flamethrower/scattergun.
damn I been thinking about that for a while.
I am with ya.
Whats with keepin all these dead people around anyway? We are just making our problems worse when the zombie apocalypse finally come to fruition.
Say your goodbyes, burn them up and use them for fertilizer. Its going to happen to all of us anyway in about 5 billions years when our Sun bloats and engulfs the earth.
I wont be one of damn zombies, I am going to be direct cremated, everyone that knows me already knows that if they simply bury me I will come back and eat them up, yum, yum!
My brother has already been duscussing plans for Zombie proofing the house that my husband and I are trying to buy. ;)
He said he bought the book and plans to use it. LOL
While your point might be valid, NB25, imagine the ghost and spirit problem they're creating. Zombies? Handled. But an improper funeral? Wandering spirits.
Maybe wandering spirits who can THROW things.
well then, that explains the ghost in my bedroom that keeps trying to crawl in my bed. i guess that a good example of what happens during an improper funeral.
i apologize for my humor during such a serious subject. i'm in rare form today i guess.
and on the scientific level, a bbq can't possibly generate enough heat to cremate a body.
most machines operate between 1,500 to 1,900 degrees F. The actual cremation time again varies depending upon the type of machine. Low capacity retorts take approximately 3 hours to complete a cremation while high capacity machines take less than one hour
I have a pretty good quality bbq at home, and it gets up to 600 degrees. Not even close.
The social level is far more disturbing , so I'll just stick with the scientific one.
Freakin Sick! They should get the death penalty!
Typical knee-jerk reaction. From now on, your new Delta Tau Chi name is... 'Kneecaps'.
Typical knee jerk reaction to a knee jerk reaction. From now on, your Delta Tau Chi name is Hambone, because in the song, I think the knees are connected to it.
;)
"Why Hambone, sir?"
**buuuurrp** "Why NOT?!!"
hehe
wow, difficult subject, I don't think I am even going to start or I am going to be here all day. have to work, maybe I will come back later, have to think how to comment wihtout offending anybody.
I don't understand this level of outrage. If this were a case of two parents burying a dead child in their backyard to avoid funeral costs, would there be the same response? Obviously they were attempting a do-it-yourself cremation, which I'm sure is illegal, but it's not like the child wasn't already dead and it's not like they were cooking it to eat (at least, the article doesn't say that).
They sound like desperate people that made a mistake and did something stupid, and now they're paying for it. There's no excuse for dehumanizing them like the OP did, or grounds for capital punishment like others have suggested.
First off, try reading the whole article before posting about it, else you look like an idiot. Here I'll even post a link for you. ==--Click Here--==
This wasn't simply for a lack of funds, they abused, murdered, and hid the body all while collecting wellfare for him.
Oh.
You're right, I should have read the article. I usually call other people out for doing that, too. Bad form, me.
But I will say that putting the corpse on the grill is the least of their crimes.
I wonder how their new neighbors are going to treat them.
boneclinks: that is what I was thinking, I read death penalty above and told myself for what! Sorry to all that are outraged for the BBQ of a child, but that should not cause outrage the abuse should, now if that is what everyone meant, than my apologies.
The BBQ was a culmination of a series of horrible events. Now I am disgusted by the act alone, but I'm far more disturbed by the path that led to it. At least this couple is in prison now.
mojo: exactly! it did not surprise me, not much things do anymore, humans are the worst anumals in the world!
Thank you Mojo31979 for posting the entire article. This is the most disgusting thing I have read in quite a while. I think in instances of child abuse, the perpetrator should not be allowed a plea deal. They both deserve life in prison. See how the other prisoners treat child abusers!!
One of the most vile acts of non-human behavior has happened in Detroit with two animals disguised as human parents. Animals may even be disgusted with me for saying that because they have more respect for life than these low lifes.
Animals would never lower themselves to that of a mere human....besides animals don't use a BBQ for their young. They are unable to light a flame. and have more dignity.
There are no words.
(CHILD BURNED TO DEATH.; Mother Wouldn't Let Him Be Taken to Hospital When Dying. )
See the Ny times....
This was a failed attempt at black humor.
I was attempting to link this horror to the economy and how some would blame all the horrible acts in our country on it. Major fail. Sorry if it offended. But sometimes you can only view the abominations of this world through a humorist lens without turning to stone.
There are no words for this one. Well, not many anyway. The first are that yes, the parents should get the death penalty. They obviously have no value of human life, and if they have no value of human life - why let them live with humans, in any capacity. They can just hurry up, get to the fun judgement part and let hell deal with them for all eternity.
The second are: Yes, there are some cultures that burn a body as a funeral or religious rite. However, Detroit isn't that rife with such culture. Even if this was an event like that - they are usually highly religious and public in nature. Somehow, I don't think Kingsford and some lighter fluid are in the playbook.
Hang them in the Townsquare!
Make them a mockery!
Honestly, they are pretty much a mockery at the moment.
Louella, does your town have a square? Mine doesn't...I think they went the way of home-cooking, opening doors for people and wearing a belt with your trousers.
think they went the way of home-cooking, opening doors for people and wearing a belt with your trousers.
I still do all three, they are still around, if yo look!
WHAT! This can't be true!
Eric, not from the Northeast? We still have "squares" back there.
I just read the report ... this IS real. This is why I believe in a woman't right to choice. Although, it looks like this couple decided to have children, may Roe vs. Wade never be overthrown.
Sick, sick people. They got one and it looks like the other one was only a matter of time. How sad, how tragic.
In answer to Eric Etheridge on my comment:
Almost every town in Iowa does have a town square, and actually it is just a saying regardless of whether a town has one or not.
Actually these parent's should be burned at the stake!
Awed in bad taste in all .Too sad .
what's the problem? Oh, the funeral house doesn't get it's cut.
Kinda like when I bought my house from my sister & didn't use a realtor.
Cletus~ You may want to read the blog a bit more carefully and possibly look up other articles on this. I don't think it had so much to do with the actually funeral costs. I believe that the seeder was trying to make a point about the decline in personal responsibility. The first thing that most people focus on in this case would be the abuse this 2 year old suffered before finally dying.
That's awful!
As an atheist, once someone is dead, the body is just a thing to me, not a person anymore.
It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand.
BTW, where's my reparation check?
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